What is it exactly?

I think its a bit of a mind play. Mind Games
I find Im always trying to improve on myself as if I should be aspiring to some kind of perfection or something.

What is this thing that we are built with error and always fall short of a true solution?

I just dont get it!

I think about these things see!

I say to myself...right Im gonna be like this and for a while I am, then life happens and it all goes retrograde.

I get hedonistic, I get all with the music like.

Then I think about being on a path and as long as I aspire to it I'm doing good.

Mnnn......this game could go on forever!

Is there anyone who is actually getting it right or do you think we are all destined to just fall and rise and fall?

And rise and rise and fall....??

Again this could go on forever!

We look towards prophets and dieties but what are we really looking for?

It makes me think of a saying in a book:

Neverness.

There is hope, but not for man!

And another saying....

I tried to find him on the Christian Cross but he was not there.
I Searched in the mountains and in the valleys but neither in the heights nor the depths was I able to find him. I went to the Cabba in Mecca but he was not there either. I then looked into my heart, it was there that I saw him,
he was nowhere else to be be found.
Jellaludin Rumi.

I feel that there is great spiritual development coming from the KS band but I also feel that if I take things to where I feel I would natrually go with it then Im on a bit of a tresspass!

Not that Im scared or anything like that, it just seems a bit of a contradiction to God knows what ?

Whaddya think guys?

Any comments?

Or is this too deep for you?

Is God Hedonistic -do you think?

That Dionysus thing?

Any comments?

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I feel that there is great spiritual development coming from the KS band but I also feel that if I take things to where I feel I would natrually go with it then Im on a bit of a tresspass!

Not that Im scared or anything like that, it just seems a bit of a contradiction to God knows what ?

Been there, don't know what to tell ya!

I think this shouldn't have been posted on the KS side of the forum.

As for my personal opinion; I don't think there's a rational proof of God's existence, neither is there a decent argument based on probabilities. Private spiritual experiences can always be 'explained away' and it's simply an abandonment of one's rational faculties to conclude more from private experiences than is warranted. I'm not saying God doesn't exist, I'm saying, short of Him descending from on high and performing miracles for the whole world to see, His existence will always be an open question - for everyone, no matter what private experiences one has had where one has 'just known' God was there.

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Well, you can't prove that God exists, I think most peolpe would agree on that. But then you can't easily prove the non-existence of God either. I suppose you can say that the weight of evidence points to the non-existence of god, if you want to approach it from the point-of-view of a purely rational mind.

Personally I consider myself an atheist, and yet the spiritual side of KS's music does resonate with me for some reason. I think it's because they often approach it from the point of view that "there must be something more than this", and that's obviously something I want to believe in, even if I find it impossible to accept the idea of God and an afterlife as givens. Maybe I'm becoming agnostic in my old age heh

I am spiritual, and I certainly believe something, but spirituality to me is a personal experience, and god is an interesting metaphor.

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Originally posted by drykid:
Well, you can't prove that God exists, I think most peolpe would agree on that. But then you can't easily prove the non-existence of God either. I suppose you can say that the weight of evidence points to the non-existence of god, if you want to approach it from the point-of-view of a purely rational mind.

Personally I consider myself an atheist, and yet the spiritual side of KS's music does resonate with me for some reason. I think it's because they often approach it from the point of view that "there must be something more than this", and that's obviously something I want to believe in, even if I find it impossible to accept the idea of God and an afterlife as givens. Maybe I'm becoming agnostic in my old age heh

I am an agnostic because I think that short of some world-changing public demonstration there can't be a decent probabilistic argument either way. How can something in our (collective, I don't mean our personal and private here) everyday experience count as evidence for something so beyond that experience... either for, or against.

And where we lack evidence what is it prudent to do? Surely reserve judgement...

Hi drykid,

Well... I have had a lot of stuff that relates to none earthly happenings but I guess it doesnt prove the existence of God one way or the another. I think of God as a kind of trail blazing comet that carks out what we consider as the future and passes it down to us as our present.
If someone were to say that there is no God or ''nothing'' after death then I think that there is a fault with that 'nothing' buisiness since 'nothing' is a human concept! Someone or something has to contemplate this 'nothingness.'

I also have had telepathic experiences and it makes me wonder what is actually behind the transmission of such telepathy. What takes it from me to you so to speak?

I posted this topic here because I have experienced renewed energy since KS reformed. KS music literally feeds my soul with belief!

I think God is also a creative energy that expresses itself big time through music.

My interpretation of the Holy Trinity is (and these are my own words) :

The Father - The place to which we must all return

The Son - Human identification with this divine power

The Holy Spirit - The force in which we move with freedom and without bondage.

That about sums it up for me.